No Man's Sky (2016)

No Mans Sky - (Steam Deck)

It didn’t have the best start at launch 2016, but Hello Games has kept updating it and really managed to turn it around. Almost 10 years in and they still release new content and updates for free.

I had a hard time getting into it though. So many galaxies and infinite planets, it’s very ambitious. Had problems to understand the story of No Man’s Sky, what the goal of the game was. Every here and then I got small quest, on so many planets, had problem to navigate through it and it felt overwhelming.

Got into it more and understood all the mechanisms more with time, it was a lot to learn. It got more fun after a while. The exploration is the main thing, discover new planets, species ans settlements. Build and create bases in these different planets was a great aspect as well, it’s done good!

As mentioned, I had some problems with the story and understanding what I was suppose to do next. Sometimes it felt a bit unclear and directionless, which broke the flow for me.

Overall, it’s a much better game today than it was at release. But for me, it’s a bit hit and miss. Some great aspects but I had problems with finding the real fun in it.

Rating: 🌲🌲🌲 ➕

I recently picked up No Man's Sky during its sale after one of their newest updates and began playing for the first time since the game came out back in 2016 (I might've played in 2017, idk who cares), and let me say I am thoroughly impressed. As per my usual caveat, I think Grouvee should implement half stars like Letterboxd because, like many of the other games, I think this one is about a 4 1/2 stars in its current state.

NMS drops you into a random world, alone in the universe, and gives you a brief tutorial on how to survive, and then you set off. The first few hours are somewhat slow, scoping out the world and gathering materials to craft and repair your ship, but once the game opens up, it really just opens up. There will be continual story missions to point you in a direction, but you can go anywhere in a truly whole generated universe.

Now, the catch is that everything is very samey overall once you get into things, but I genuinely do feel that way about most open-world survival games. You sort of fall into a niche of crafting and exploration while doing the same gameplay loop fairly repetitively and slowly unlocking and expanding your bases or assortment of tools and NMS, in no way is different from that aspect. You will explore many worlds, with a wide variety of looks, feels, and effects-- but all in all, it has some flora, some fauna, and minerals to scan and see with a variety of high-grade materials, ores, or special events or bases. But that is quite literally every planet, no matter where you go throughout the galaxy. It could be I have just not explored enough (I am like 20 hours into one save), however, I would have honestly kind of liked to find barren planets or true gas giants, but every single planet without fail has been fairly similar. The biggest departure from the norm was an aquatic planet that had all of these things, but under the water.

Additionally, I'd be remiss to mention the graphics problems I've had, which mainly range from a lot of pop-in and poor smoothing that leads to frame drops pretty often. Also, the menu lags very significantly on occasion, and I'm not sure why. That and a few bugs with NPCs glitching or being unable to interact have been fairly common, which definitely drops the immersion and experience when it does happen. Thankfully, this was mainly at the start of my playthrough and has not happened much in recency, but I still do wish that I could find some better graphics options that looked good but didn't absolutely annihilate my computer somehow.

With that being said, I am still fully enjoying the feeling of exploring each planet; the wide variety of visuals and effects really leaves me impressed, and I'll feel compelled to take a screenshot or something, which is fairly uncommon for me overall. The feeling of flying through space, only to intercept a signal from a random ship hailing you to buy their wares, or warping to a new system only to find a federation ship under attack by pirates, is unmatched in anything I've played in a while. It just feels so well-seamed and connected, which really allows me to get into the mood for it. ALSO, I love the slow communication with different alien races, each with their own language that you slowly piece together and build upgrades to quicken is really fun and unique to me.

As stated in the title, I am a big fan of the game Spore and really liked the idea of the evolution of a creature to the evolution of its culture to their eventual achievement of interstellar expansion. Now, in that game, it was fairly limited, but I loved going from galaxy to galaxy, talking to factions, and making allies or enemies, and tbh I think that NMS is exactly what I was looking for from that. It may not be for everyone, but DAMN does this game really do it for me right now.

Honestly really enjoying the game. The developers have improved it drastically since it's initial launch, so I believe many of the reviews/ratings are outdated. It has always had a high potential and with a good system the immersion is incredible. The progression is satisfying and there are always seems to be more I want to do and discover.

There are still issues that hold the game back though:

• Connection problems when playing with friends... even though we are on the next-gen Xbox
• Get's very grindy when mining and searching for materials or assets which can get boring
• Lacking story regarding depth and excitement
• The beginning of the game can be hard to get past. I replayed the beginning a few times with friends that I wanted to try the game out with me and realized how boring it was after the initial excitement to discover what the game had to offer. The tutorial was sub-par and forces you to walk around an area to earn necessary tools, but it wasn't fun and still forced me to research several aspects that were far too complicated to understand without it but easy to include in a simple manner.

Favorite aspects that make the game worth playing

• As mentioned: Immersion... the lack of loading screens, beautiful views and animations, and opportunity to discover and make my own impact in the universe was the best part of the game for me. Took several hours of playing to appreciate fully, but it was better than basically any game I've played.
• Uniqueness, every planet I landed on had a different ambience and it was beautiful in its own way. I do wish there were more interesting things to discover on each one, but it is still a wonderful part of the game and makes the discovery aspect feel above and beyond. Additionally, the originality of each object from animals to ships made me feel like I was experiencing a completely different game from anyone else.
• Creation, base building in this game is better than most games with this feature. It takes an incredibly long grind to get the point you can build an interesting base in any of the survival modes, but it just makes it more rewarding.

I played this as part of a game club I'm in and I had an absolutely wonderful time.

I didn't get nearly as much co-op as I wanted and I feel like there's some more depth of the systems that I didn't explore, but there was little that drove me to explore more.

What I did play was a lot of fun. The loop of the everyday session was enjoyable (search, gather, build, unlock) and I had a sizable base before I decided that I had spent enough time with that. Ultimately, there was a bug with one of the mainline quests that got too frustrating, and I eventually fell off of it for now.

I may dip back in again some time in the future, and if I upgrade my computer more, maybe even in VR, but for now, I'll end my time remembering it well instead of frustrating myself because of my old-ish rig.

~David.

Wow, just wow. This is like living my science fiction dreams! I love everything about this game.

I like how vulnerable your character is. I found myself running back to my ship (that I repaired) for safety several times.

You can even tunnel and mine for metal.

This all completely blew me away. Thank you @bmo and @tylerisrandom for the recommendation. This game is helping my mental health very much! :-)

Just played a couple hours in my Oculus Rift with the new update and am really digging it. This is my first NMS experience beyond a half-hour stint a year back.

Anyways, I'm happy with everything so far except for the flight controls. In VR, they're set to hold a "virtual flight stick" and "virtual throttle" in the air where you're just holding your hands out in front of you. Meanwhile, you've got two real analog sticks right at your thumbs, doing nothing... it's super lame. I dunno if the devs don't play games themselves or what, but every other VR flight game uses the real sticks. So there's an established standard and they've ignored it; not a good look.

On the Playstation VR version, you can switch back and forth from the Move motion controls (for walking around) to the Dualshock (for flight) which would be much better. AFAIK, that's not an option on the PC versions.

Also, versions sold from GOG can't play multiplayer with Steam people, and vice versa. Which is also disappointing. In this time of cross-everything support (Fortnite, Dauntless, upcoming Call of Duty) I expected (hoped?) a dev house with-it enough to do VR support would also at least manage cross-vendor multiplayer. There was a big fiasco with CoD on the Windows Store not having cross-vendor play on the PC and having maybe two players online at a time, before Activision was shamed into refunding and giving up on that. Yet here it is again.

So I'll try to figure out what I can with flight controls, eagerly watch for patches, and enjoy this thing!

I 'finished' the game. (If you want to call that an ending.) I did most stuff there is to do in the game as well. For the most part this game is OK. But its not the best design, lots of short sighted stuff. The overall aesthetic is nice though and its fun to just fly a ship around. (Compared to most space trading or space flight sims, its pretty approachable.)

The game asks you to do a lot, and work a lot to give you very little sometimes, and as you learn the rewards for doing things, you start to really care less. For a game that allows you do seemingly do so much, and go in different directions, its surprisingly repetitive. Of all things, I wish the trading was less tedious, but due to the way menus and inventory works, its a nightmare. Of all things this should not have been such an oversight since it seems to lend itself so much to elite and other space trader type games. doh.

It's also still full of bugs here and tehre. I've gatewayed to places in the middle of deep space and fallen to my daeth, had portable smelters dissapear, NPCs to return quests that you spent time on nowehre to be found. By far the worst aspect though is the UI windows. Between shuffling items around (even once you get the hang of it) and losing them when you forget to transfer your stuff to a new ship.. or worse freighter.

By far, the worst thing you can do in this game is lose your freighter and your cargo, as well as all the support vessels you own. Few games have a little UI misclick error of such a magnitude.

I see a lot of guides and stuff on how to do things in the game that imo, just dont matter. Most of the hype around getting a good ship is somewhat silly as well. The best way to get a ship is to use that telecom data to find a crashed one and keep hopping around until you find an 'A class fighter' with ~34 slots. Only fix up the main stuff, like guns, engine and the warp. and leave the upgrade slots you dont need broken as well as all the inventory space. This will let you warp through blackholes and you'll never break your warp drive. IT managed to work for me anyway.

Is there a term/subgenre for a game that is a massive single player world? I'm not talking about open world games or long games (like Witcher 3 or Fallout 4). But games like maybe Elite, Dwarf Fortress, Hollow Knight, No Man's Sky, maybe Monster Hunter (I haven't played)

a lot of RPG games have a similar feel and experience as they explore this territory to do their thing (like Witcher, Fallout, ELEX) but that's usually not the underlying focus. RPGs tend to also do this in the same kind of identifiable genre formats

So, anyone have a thought? Is there a distinction between a really big open world RPG and something like No Man's Sky? It's confusing. I think so, but a lot of games feel very close (Like Bethesda's First person open world dungeon crawler games and even old school first person open world dungeon crawler's Krondor) you know you hit this when after you play it you dig deeper and realize you have just scratched the surface.

I really wanted to zone out into another world last night so finally tried it. Played it for about 3 hours. It's a bit immersive but it doesnt have that magic hold minecraft does. IMO, Minecraft's main drawback is the slow paced grind and (with mods) tons of sorting and re-learning ui with each modpack. no man's sky feels a bit like that, with some gameplay niceties, it's a more vibrant minute to minute survival aspect with some simplification of crafting, but to me it feels obtuse. Overall, playing it is a toss up between "i'm kinda curious about that" but also "i kinda just want to get this done and ghost this planet. these

The updates sound interesting and seem to have added a lot of content and many claim the game has improved. I'm sure there are planets that just like the biomes in minecraft really can stand out from the three i visited. But, this doesn't quite feel like a 'make your own story' or 'carve out your own little world' like minecraft. It feels a lot more forced and less free form and definitely shallow. In doesn't stand out from other games that are world building games kinda in same vein that i've played. Digging for treasure or mining or learning about anything in the game doesn't really appeal to curiosity.

I played the 'normal' survival mode. the harder survival mode sounds like it would just be frustrating, a creative mode might be the way to play it since the main meat of the game is continuing on that main quest, but I think i'd rather go back to test new builds in PC Building Simulator, lol.

So, yea that's how exciting the game is! :P

There is a pretty wide consensus that No Man's Sky is not a game that lived up to its own hype, and that in many ways it is not a game worth playing at all. I'm not here to challenge that. But as someone who bought in to all the pre-release hype I have been curious about exactly how this game fails. Finally, a year-and-a-half after its release, I bought the game on sale to test it out for myself. This also gave the game developers plenty of time to patch this game and update it and try and bring it more in line with the original vision. What follows are my experiences playing this game for 25 hours, and some thoughts as to why it failed (which I hope are just different enough from what everyone else is saying to hold your attention for those few extra minutes):

-- The Good --

This game works hard to feel strange and mysterious, from the minimalistic synth music (that often sounds almost like random electronic noises) to the sparse amount of written words and story details. While there are tutorial prompts, on some level this game was made to be hard to decipher. Simple tasks are not instantly intuitive because this game does things in slightly different ways than other similar games. For example, instead of clicking to confirm a menu choice you have to click and hold for a full second. This was a small detail but somehow made the game feel alien.

Honestly the beginning of the game was my favorite part. The mysterious feel of the game made it feel like anything was possible. I found myself dreaming about what it would be like to finally fix my ship and get off the ground for the first time. Of course strangeness of this game meant that I needed to spend a little more time learning how to actually get things done. I came at it with low expectations and a relaxed mental posture though, and that helped me to enjoy that initial learning experience.

After a few hours I had figured out the basic flow of this game. In the beginning flying from one planet to another was a magical experience. But after I had "discovered" my twentieth planet I had a system. I knew what to look for, what to ignore, and what hoops I had to jump through to keep my ship moving. It was at this point that my interest in this title began to dry up.

--The Bad--

I think this game failed because everything the player does feels meaningless. In general there are two ways that players can derive meaning from the games they play. First, there is the narrative. While some games are criticized for being too scripted there is something to be said for games with big cinematic moments and carefully crafted narrative. If a game can make you care for a character, or relate to a character, or hate a character then that can make it a memorable experience. And the interactivity in games can enhance that connection. But the story in this game was so sparse it was almost non-existent. I think that minimalism was a design choice. I think they were trying to make it mysterious and strange. But they took it too far. What little bits of narrative this game strings together are disjointed, difficult to connect to on a personal or emotional level, and are otherwise forgettable as "typical sci-fi fodder." A simple (and spoiler free) example of this are the aliens you encounter all over the place. They all have slightly different faces but they all universally lack walking animations. That means they just stand in place and make vague gestures at you. When you initiate dialogue you will get one of a dozen typical responses, or maybe a slightly rarer special event (which is less special after the third of fourth time seeing the same one). Every single character you encounter is little better than a cardboard cutout, and can be thrown away just as easily. Some might be tempted to blame the random generation that is the main feature of this game. But with some creative design work it is possible to create interesting characters from random narrative elements. It just felt like the developers didn’t care to try.

The other way a player can derive meaning from a game is by playing with the game's systems (sometimes called something like "emergent storytelling"). I don't play Skyrim because it has a good story. I play it because of the potential for wacky and unpredictable battles, with startling moments that make great videos and stories to tell my friends. I play it for how the game rewards you for all that time you spent crafting the perfect armor and weapon by letting you steamroll through all the enemies you encounter. I enjoy interacting with the game's systems, pushing and pulling to see how the game reacts and adjusting what I do accordingly. I think this is where the hype for No Man's Sky was the biggest and what 18 months of updates hasn't really fixed yet. This game just does not have that sort of flexibility in its systems. You push and you pull and the game hardly changes at all. You either have the resources to make the super-thing or you don't. You either fly to one planet with a random set of resources or you fly to the other planet with a different set of random resources. Way back in 2011 when I played Skyrim for the very first time and encountered my first dragon my horse ran up and killed it. No Man's Sky will never be able to generate a story as unexpected (and humorous) as that.

--The Verdict--

This game is a technical marvel in its own right. But with all that space there is very little meaning to anything I choose to do. I live, I die, and the universe just doesn't care. For those of you though who might be interested in playing a space sim game like this one I do think there is some room for you to enjoy yourself. You just need to keep your expectations low and come at this title with a relaxed mental posture and a willingness to move at a slow pace. For mindful gamers this title offers many chances to stop and smell the space-roses (before harvesting them for isotopes). I would wait for a sale though. For anyone with any kind of gaming budget it is hard to justify this game's full price with the relatively wooden and repetitive experience it offers.

Definitely not for everyone but if walking/jumping/driving/flying around scanning things and mining sounds like fun to you, you might just love it. At launch it was a good game but with the latest updates it's moved up to VERY good and could conceivably hit "great" eventually. There's still a lot of bad blood with Hello Games for a lot of people which I think is largely responsible for the score tanking pretty much everywhere but if a chilled out space sim where you explore, scan, and craft like no-ones business sounds good to you, I genuinely can't think of another game that checks those boxes like NMS.

If you've played Elite Dangerous, imagine that but with bright pastel colours, a UI like Destiny's loot screen, and an all 'round more accessible gameplay experience you have a good idea of what NMS is. Personally, I love it but I totally get that others may be bored to death by it.